The Blue book Q & A

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The Blue book Q & A

Post by Chris G » Mon Sep 29, 2014 19:30

The “Blue Book” for 2015 will be published soon.

Some impending changes are published through the year via a two monthly magazine.

I have made this posting a “sticky” so it will always be at the top of the list.

Robbo and Vic will try to keep you all up to date regarding changes by adding to this thread.

Please also add to this thread any questions you may have of a technical nature.

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(K)Competitor Safety
3 Fire Extinguishers


It is recommended that all FIRE EXTINGUISHERS are serviced in accordance with the manufactures guidelines, or every 24 months,
whichever is the sooner.
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10.3.1 Helmet Standards

(a)All MSA EVENTS

FIA 8860 - 2004
FIA 8860 - 2010
SNELL SA 2005 (NOT VALID AFTER 31/12/2018 )
SNELL SA 2000 Not valid after Jan 2015
SNELL SA 2010
SNELL SAH 2010
SFI FOUNDATION 31.1A. & 31.2A.( NOT VALIDAFTER 31/12/2018 )
BS 6658 TYPE A/FR** ( NOT VALID AFTER 31/12/15 )

REASON

To confirm the withdrawal of SA2000 helmet standard from 2015 following the extension from its original withdrawal date of 31/12/2010.

Confirming the withdrawal of the BS 6658 Type A/FR having been published as "may be withdrawn" since 2011.

The SA 2005 and SFI standards withdrawal dates are now aligned with the FIA regulations.

Robbo’s advice

My advice would be if you are about to purchase a New helmet for what ever reason then buy a Helmet spec which has the longest life as possible.

A snell 2010 would be my advice to all and it will also have the head restraint mounting post fitted as Standard ( hans device ) .

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Roll bar regulations

There is also a couple of paragraph changes that reference the roll bar regulations ref roof bars and lower sill door bars

Vic has got everyone in line with these regulations and only a vehicle that has been parked up for two or more years may fall foul of these regulations and they are sorted as and when seen at a BCCC event .
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Re: The Blue book Q & A

Post by Chris G » Tue Dec 08, 2015 22:04

Vic (our Scrutineer) has asked me to post two documents into this section regarding the 2016 Blue Book.

I have uploaded both documents as one PDF.

Please make sure you read both pages.

www.marches4x4.com/regsdoc.pdf
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Re: The Blue book Q & A

Post by mattnorc » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:54

This may be a stupid question, its been known!!

25.1. For Hill Rallies, Competitive Safaris, Timed Trials, Team Recoveries and Point to Point, all
Competitors must wear approved Crash Helmets (K.10) and goggles or visors to protect their eyes,
and clothing which covers the arms, legs and torso up to the neck. Additionally competitors in Sports
Utility Task Vehicles must wear an FIA approved FHR device, fitted in accordance with FIA regulation

Take it the goggles and visor are only required if no windscreen is present?

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Re: The Blue book Q & A

Post by vicrib » Wed Dec 09, 2015 17:56

For all offroad timed events listed in the reg P 25.1 you will have to wear goggles or visor all the time with or without windscreen/enclosed cab we are investigating whether this is a printing error or not . Vic

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Re: The Blue book Q & A

Post by vicrib » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:43

Hands up i am as guilty as every one for missing this i have looked back through old MSA blue books 2012 the reg for goggles was in there i cannot find 2011/10/9 but it was not in the off-road regs in 2008. :bat: we will investigate futher

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Re: The Blue book Q & A

Post by sheepie » Sun Dec 13, 2015 21:43

So we may have to wear goggles in the car even if we have a totally inclosed cockpit !!!!!!!!

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Re: The Blue book Q & A

Post by willjj » Tue Dec 15, 2015 23:07

Which won't work because they'll just steam up with no airflow................that'll be safe won't it!!!!!

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Re: The Blue book Q & A

Post by willjj » Mon Jan 04, 2016 22:50

Have we heard anything else on this yet?

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Re: The Blue book Q & A

Post by Chris G » Tue Jan 05, 2016 22:10

Vic was trying to contact Ian Davis at the MSA for clarification.
I have been told that Ian has been on holiday and unavaliable for a while.
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Re: The Blue book Q & A

Post by sheepie » Sat Jan 09, 2016 22:05

Well today been out testing one of the freelanders and tried different goggles out and they kept misting up even tried the old screen de mist stuff and that didnt work tried it with the heaters on and off still not much better !!!!!!!! hope its a mistake cos it aint gunna be that safe

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